Note Fifteen Dr. Garry Gordon Lecture
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Note: I generally listen to Dr. Gordon's recorded lectures every day, often while I am exercising every morning. I am not close to being as knowledgeable a biochemist as is Garry, and there are many, many words he uses which I don't recognize. He also goes over his material very quickly.
Consequently, I usually listen to any one tape many times. I am not usually in a position to write notes, so I just depend on listening several times, and occasionally stopping my exercises to jot down some name or note.
So, whatever notes I have about individual lectures should be read with the above in mind. I don't claim to get the data from these recorded lectures with complete accuracy. Do not accept, without your own checking, that I have words, or names, or even data with complete accuracy in these notes.
Karl Loren
List of lectures available here
As of December 16, 2002, I have listened several times to this tape, and will be listening again.
As is true of many of Garry's lectures, the data in this lecture will thrill you IF you have enough money to seek all the many treatments and experts he talks about. Generally, of course, these treatments, and these experts do NOT work within the standard of care therapy for cancer in the United States.
I will be adding to this, and other, pages, gradually, as I continue to listen and do the further research to make an intelligent comment on the material in this (or any other) recorded lecture.
Karl Loren
1. Lab Tests Garry talks in this lecture a great deal about the various tests that help diagnosis various types of cancer, and presumably the various types of treatments that would be useful in each. As he talks about these tests he makes the comment that, years ago he could send a patient for tests, or send the patient's blood for tests, and be very confident that he would get back honest and accurate reports.
He specifically mentions the "Nichols Lab" as one of the very famous and dependable labs he used to work with, before.
But now, he says, the Government and Medicare have become the largest consumers of testing facilities, and that they have continuously beaten down the prices for various tests, including a policy of paying somewhat less than the "breakeven" fee for a test. As a result, the testing labs have had to lower their costs and no longer perform honest work.
Medically necessary diagnostic lab services are 100% paid by Medicare, and labs can’t charge people on Medicare additional amounts for covered services. Except for a few exceptions, Medicare does not cover screening blood tests. (source)
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Example 1: A laboratory technician travels 60 miles round trip from a lab in a city to a remote rural location, and back to the lab to draw a single Medicare patient’s blood. The total reimbursement would be $45.00 (60 miles x .75 cents a mile), plus the specimen collection fee of $3.00. (source)
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The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) has proposed that it plans to pay hospitals $32.54 for diagnostic mammograms in 2002, which is a 7.5% cut from the present rate of $35.17. Many experts have deemed current rates too low forcing many facilities to leave this business, which in turn has caused widespread delays for such tests being performed for routine mammograms. (source)
Even when Medicare increases the fee it will pay, it is obviously then also controlling the type of medicine your doctor can practice.
The CMS is also proposing a 22% increase to $760.09 for surgical outpatient biopsy, as opposed to paying a 6% reduction for reimbursement for needle biopsy to $384.87. the needle biopsy procedure takes about 15 minutes under a local anesthetic. Thus the CMS is giving encouragement to the doctors to perform the costlier procedure. The American Cancer Society estimated that there will be 192,200 new cases of breast cancer diagnosed this year, and that 40,200 women will die from the disease in 2001. About 1.2 million women get breast biopsies every year. (source)
Note that I have written that even the needle biopsy increases the risk of spread of cancer. The surgical biopsy even more increases the risk of cancer spread. And it is this method by which the Government controls what you doctor does -- he is NOT YOUR doctor, but the paid pawn of the government.
So called "health insurance" is really "disease assurance." This was one of the earliest philosophical articles I wrote -- our health care system can only get worse as long as most people regard health care as a "right" -- something they get for free from the government.
Dr.
Gordon mentions, in particular, this "Nichols" lab
which was purchased by "Quest"
and then re-purchased by Dow-Corning.
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Quest had income of $40 BILLION FOR THE THREE MONTHS ENDED MARCH 31, 2001. (Source)
Quest Diagnostics is testing its ability to become the world's leading clinical lab. The company performs more than 100 million tests annually, including cholesterol, HIV, and alcohol tests. The firm has labs throughout the US and in Mexico and the UK. Quest also performs esoteric testing (complex, low-volume tests) and clinical trials; about a third of its clinical trial testing is for GlaxoSmithKline, which owns about 25% of the firm. The company serves doctors, hospitals, HMOs, and other labs, as well as corporations, government agencies, and prisons. (Source)
Per the data HERE, Dow Corning has had a long term interest in acquiring medical testing facilities.
Similarly, the acquisition of International Clinical would significantly boost Corning's market presence, doubling the size and expanding the territory of the Corning, N. Y. -based company's Metpath laboratory operations, which provide medical testing for physicians. The Metpath unit operates 13 clinical-testing labs, primarily in the Northeast. International Clinical, which operates 13 labs on the West Coast and in the South, had net income of $4.8 million on sales of $205.5 million for the fiscal year ended Aug. 31. (source)
At MetPath, a subsidiary of Corning Incorporated and a nationwide operator of medical laboratories, the company's lifeblood would appear to be specimen testing and clinical pathology. But their real business is information, and a savvy application of Symbol`s two-dimensional portable data file technology, PDF417, is helping MetPath beat the competition."The bulk of our work comes from multi-physician practices," said Luis Eguren, manager of computer operations for MetPath`s New England Region, headquartered in New Britain, Conn. "We test biological specimens which include blood work, urinalysis, drug screening, HIV, cholesterol and premarital blood tests." (source)
Click HERE for examples of mal-practice law suits against Quest and MetPath for improper testing procedures and results.
This plaintiff claimed, in her pathology malpractice suit, that on March 23, 1989, Metpath misdiagnosed her husband's mole that was removed by his doctor, as being benign. Unfortunately, by 1996 it had grown back and was then correctly diagnosed as malignant melanoma. Even more unfortunately, it metastasized and eventually killed him October 27, 1998. (source)
As a result of the lower fees, and the purchase by large commercial interests, he says he would not use that lab, or any of many labs, any further for tests. So, he talks often of various new testing facilities, doing tests that are not yet approved for reimbursement by the Government, and so are not yet subject to the lowered fees, and lowered quality of the test results.
It is an interesting factor to keep in mind when your doctor says, "We need to send a sample of your blood to the lab for testing!" Almost never would you suspect that the very "free" medicine you so much want, is driving down the quality of the very care you get. You can't have it both ways. A socialized medical system will deliver cheap and inferior medical care.
Virtually all of Dr. Gordon's medical care, when he takes on a few patients, personally, is NOT covered by any insurance and is paid for at high rates, in cash, by the patient.
2. C Reactive Protein In this lecture Garry talks about C Reactive Protein.
My opinion, not his, is that this is just another symptom, not a cause of health problems, and that it was "discovered" because some drug company has developed or wants to develop some drug to handle it.
Garry
usually doesn't go in that direction with his opinions. I usually do.
Garry, rather, sees these as relatively real health problems, but then looks
for a non-drug solution. In this sense Garry's approach will be far more
appealing to traditional doctors than mine. I suggest that "wrong relationships" are the most
basic cause of health problems. That is true, as far as I am concerned, but it
is an extreme stretch for people who would rather blame a virus.
In any event Garry spends a great deal of time, in this lecture and in others, talking about "inflammation." This is a much bigger subject than "infection" but related. In the case of C Reactive Protein he suggests that there is a commercial product, not a drug, that is extremely effective in handling not only C Reactive Protein, but any other type of inflammation. He also suggests that inflammation is an important factor in both cancer and heart disease.
He indicates that people given this FYI product will see their C Reactive Protein drop by at least 50%.
He then describes the product, "For Your Inflammation," made basically from a specially refined form of the herb Cat's Claw that is very effective. I have personally purchased some of this for my own use. Otherwise the doctor will suggest aspirin and Zocor. If he does? You need a different doctor. I, Karl Loren, am now taking at least 6 FYI every day. I am this convinced of Dr. Gordon's data. (On this same lecture Dr. Gordon mentions how much EDTA he takes every day -- six grams. As a result of that data I am now taking 12 of my Life Glow Basic capsules every day, along with my regular supply of Super Life Glow.)
Click here for another page from the actual manufacturer of FYI.
You can purchase FYI from the Vibrant Life Shopping Cart by clicking HERE.
C
Reactive Protein is getting very main-stream promotion.
Click here for
an article in the US World and News Report.
CRP may be more than just a marker for heart risk. It may be a causative agent. Studies suggest that it is produced not only in the liver but also inside artery walls where cellular troops are gathering to initiate an inflammatory response. CRP may promote the formation of "adhesion molecules" that, sirenlike, lure white blood cells out of the bloodstream to stick to artery walls. From there, they squirm inside the wall, where they contribute to a growing pocket of inflammation. CRP also may lower the level of nitrous oxide--"a major player in keeping blood vessels healthy," says Ridker. (source)
Of course the American Heart Association is delighted to have C Reactive Protein come along just in time to push the scandal about cholesterol off the front pages where it has been.
"Inflammation" is the process by which the body responds to injury. Laboratory evidence and findings from autopsy studies suggest that the inflammatory process plays an important part in atherosclerosis (ath"er-o-skleh-RO'sis). That's the process in which fatty deposits build up in the lining of arteries.
[Karl Note: This is such a terrible LIE that I can hardly stand to even quote them without putting in my own comment along with their data.]
C-reactive protein (CRP) is a protein in the body whose level increases when there's inflammation of blood vessels. It's been suggested that CRP may provide a new way to assess cardiovascular disease risk.
Researchers have found that blood levels of CRP are elevated many years before a first heart attack or stroke. One important study was published in the April 3, 1997, New England Journal of Medicine. (source)
The
AHA has jumped on the CRP with speed. They also are
delighted at findings that say that poor diet and lack of
exercise cause high levels of CRP, and therefore cause heart
disease -- and therefore give the doctor an excuse for your
death. But, in the meantime, don't fail to take your drugs
for high cholesterol (a fraud) and soon for CRP.
There will be a new drug binge coming along to take the place of Zocor!
It is hard to imagine that more evil could exist in the health field.
I have now placed the following text on each of several web pages:
[Karl Note: Dr. Garry F. Gordon, the founder of the intravenous chelation group of doctors discovered that oral chelation is, in fact, better than IV chelation. The group of IV doctors is called ACAM -- the American College of Advancement in Medicine. That group refused to allow its own founder, Dr. Gordon, to present his many studies on the effectiveness of oral EDTA to the group. So, Garry quit that group and for many years has been perfecting and lecturing about the advantages of the oral chelation approach.
Garry has now become very famous, all over the world, as a distinguished physician who solves medical problems with natural alternatives to drugs. I have a very large web section devoted exclusively to Garry F. Gordon -- HERE. One of the features of the Gordon Web Site is a selection of recorded lectures, mostly by Dr. Gordon, but also others. Some of these lectures you can actually download from my site, at no cost. Others can be purchased from Dr. Gordon's organization.These lectures are mostly aimed at the medical doctor, but if you take the time to listen several times and look up the words you don't understand, you can get a great deal of fascinating information from them. For each of these lectures, as I listen to them, I have some notes on a separate page. You can listen to the lectures, yourself, and you can also review my notes from having listened to those lectures.
In several lectures Dr. Gordon describes the huge importance of "inflammation" as a important factor in heart disease - in this sense he is agreeing with Dr. Furster. But, while Dr. Furster and others like him find new data about heart disease and cancer, they also are driven by the drug company money in their studies, and can only be expected to also discover some new drug that will handle the newly discovered health problem.
What Dr. Gordon does is look over these new studies, but then applies his vast knowledge of natural remedies to find products that are NOT drugs, but do as well as or better than drugs in handling the problem. In many cases it is not so simple as to say, "Just use the herb, Cat's Claw for inflammation." There are good companies out there, not drug companies, doing their research with vitamins and herbs. In this case Garry found a very specially refined version of Cat's Claw that is far, far better at reducing C Reactive Protein levels.
Thus, you can read about new discoveries, such as C Reactive Protein, and in hundreds of places you will find some new drug being touted as the remedy.
Check out my web about Garry F. Gordon and you may well find a natural alternative. There is more information on this natural alternative to a drug for handling C Reactive Protein. CLICK HERE for my lecture notes on that.Other pages where I describe this C Reactive Protein are HERE:
C Reactive Protein is mentioned in these pages on my web sites:
Vulnerable Plaque -- The New Kid On The Block!
... During the inflammatory process, a substance-C-reactive
protein-is
produced in the blood. By measuring blood levels of C-reactive
...
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Heart-Disease Sleuths Identify Prime Suspect: Inflammation of ...
... They checked samples from 543 doctors who they knew
eventually had heart attacks
or strokes, to see what their levels of C-reactive protein
had been about ...
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Nanobacteria -- The New Thing In Heart Disease
... Most of the commonly known medical “markers of
inflammation” (C Reactive Protein,
MMP's, MPO, Interleukins, etc.) are found to be elevated in response to ...
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... inflammatory therapy to deal with the newly
recognized molecular risk factors such
as fibrinogen, ultra sensitive C-reactive protein,
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Is Cholesterol-Lowering Therapy Worthwhile in the Elderly? No!
... to mirror the mechanism in humans and is buttressed
by data from human studies in
which patients with CHD who reduced their C-reactive protein
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3. Cancer Generally This recorded lecture is about cancer. There is fascinating general information here, including that virtually everyone "has" cancer, but that it is microscopic and generally very slow growing.
The typical breast cancer has been growing for 10 years before it can be found visually.
MARKERS
He talks a great deal about various "markers" that would indicate the presence of cancer. Thus, if some hormone is normally in the body at a rate of XX, and a lab test now detects it at YY level, and various studies have been done relative to this "marker," then we can say that this marker indicates the presence of some certain stage of cancer development. The cancer, itself, you see, is not detected, but this marker is. Tiny deposits of calcium in a woman's breast, for instance, are a "marker" that "maybe" there is cancer there. If the marker is an accurate one, it can be helpful.
However, the FDA is reluctant to approve something to detect these "markers" when there are good chances of a "false positive" or a "false negative."
A "false positive?" The "positive" term means that the test detects cancer, yes! But, the "false" term indicates that even though the test detects cancer, the test is false. Likewise, a "false negative" is where the test shows there is NO cancer, but that test if false, and there really is cancer there.
Either type of these false reports can be very bad for the person -- believing there is cancer present when there is none? or believing there is NO cancer when, in reality, there is some.
So, the FDA will often not approve some "marker" because it shows too many false results.
Garry talks about this issue in this lecture. If a doctor understands the chances of false reports, but uses several different tests, and spends time educating the patient about this aspect of possible false reports, these tests (whether approved by the FDA or not) can be very useful.
Many of these tests for markers are used outside the US.
Sometimes these "markers" are referred to as "fingerprints."
One of the hot news items was covered in the Wall Street Journal of December 19, 2002:
In a study to be published Thursday in the New England Journal of Medicine, a group of mostly Dutch researchers showed that a fingerprint derived from the activity of just 70 tumor genes can predict whether early-stage breast cancer is likely to metastasize, or spread aggressively. (source)
Right away, however, the WSJ article makes it clear that these wonderful new indicators about cancer are NOT available for you now! Why? Because they have to secure their patents on this before it gets out in use -- so you wait for the money-boys to be satisfied. It is one thing to have a "cancer marker" but it is yet another to then start "treating" the cancer. The drug companies are well-aware that the traditional chemo/radiation/surgery are failing technologies. They don't want the new tests to be done by the "do it cheap" labs, and be followed by harmful treatments.
These molecular fingerprints, however, are still some time away from general use in cancer treatment. Experts such as Todd Golub, a researcher at Dana-Farber Cancer Institute in Boston, warn that additional studies involving larger numbers of patients are necessary before the recent findings can be confirmed and integrated into standard treatment. (source)
The overall theme of this lecture is, however, the tremendous number of doctors, even some within the US, who have developed remarkably effective approaches to cancer -- including some types of cancer which SOME doctors are routinely curing.
Garry speaks specifically of the vital need for using an anti-inflammatory for the prevention of cancer. He also recommends the same type of remedy for preventing heart disease.
Specifically
he recommends the use of FYI, For Your Inflammation, as described above.
He also mentions an Ayurvedic herb, Curcumin, as being a very powerful
anti-inflammatory. After hearing this word, and having a very good
friend engaged in nutritional research in India, I told him of Garry's comment
and he sent me the reference to a very
current news item in the Indian Express.
He comments that the FDA will not allow many of these treatments to be used unless the person is in a very advanced (and relatively hopeless) stage of some cancer, where if the treatment were allowed earlier in the diagnosis, it would be very effective.
He comments that the FDA will not allow "multi-modality treatment." That is, the FDA says, that certain treatments can be used, yes, but only when they are used as single substance treatments, not when several of these are combined. So, there are accepted treatments which are NOT accepted when two or more of them are used at one time.
However, the biggest part of the news of this lecture is that there are many non-drug treatments that can be very effective, usually offered outside the US.
One he talks about a lot is Dr. Tsunco Kobayashi, in Japan. Click here for an article about this doctor.
Most of the studies on cancer prevention have been done by researchers in the field of public health, and their data were obtained from statistical analyses of mass populations. However, we have proposed a new diagnostic system consisting of a tumor marker combination assay (employing specific tumor markers, associated tumor markers and growth-related tumor markers). With this new diagnostic system, we can classify tumor stages and perform risk assessment in individuals. A change for the worse or improvement of the corresponding stage of the actual tumor based on the tumor marker response was evaluated in presumably healthy Japanese after subjecting them to different cancer prevention methods.
In the present study, we surveyed the independent effects of physical exercise, stress reduction, change in life-style, change in diet, supplementation of vitamins A, C and E, smoking cessation, our special refreshment therapy and herbal medicine (Sun Advance(R)) in two high-risk groups (tumor stages IV and V). These groups had been classified according to our tumor marker combination assay. Evaluation of primary cancer prevention methods was made by calculation of the ratio of improvement against change for the worse. (source)
4. Clotting
Literally millions of people are taking aspirin to "thin"
their blood and to prevent
their
blood from clotting. Clotting causes about 2,000,000 deaths per year.
This is a separate method of death from what is generally called "heart
disease."
Other millions take Coumadin -- a common rat poison with serious side effects.
Click here for definitions and structure of "platelet."
The human body does not handle excessive blood loss well. Therefore, the body has ways of protecting itself. If, for some unexpected reason, sudden blood loss occurs, the blood platelets kick into action.
Platelets are irregularly-shaped, colorless bodies that are present in blood. Their sticky surface lets them, along with other substances, form clots to stop bleeding.
When bleeding from a wound suddenly occurs, the platelets gather at the wound and attempt to block the blood flow. The mineral calcium, vitamin K, and a protein called fibrinogen help the platelets form a clot.
A clot begins to form when the blood is exposed to air. The platelets sense the presence of air and begin to break apart. They react with the fibrinogen to begin forming fibrin, which resembles tiny threads. The fibrin threads then begin to form a web-like mesh that traps the blood cells within it. This mesh of blood cells hardens as it dries, forming a clot, or "scab."
Calcium and vitamin K must be present in blood to support the formation of clots. If your blood is lacking these nutrients, it will take longer than normal for your blood to clot. If these nutrients are missing, you could bleed to death. A healthy diet provides most people with enough vitamins and minerals, but vitamin supplements are sometimes needed.
A scab is an external blood clot that we can easily see, but there are also internal blood clots. A bruise, or black-and-blue mark, is the result of a blood clot. Both scabs and bruises are clots that lead to healing. Some clots can be extremely dangerous. A blood clot that forms inside of a blood vessel can be deadly because it blocks the flow of blood, cutting off the supply of oxygen. A stroke is the result of a clot in an artery of the brain. Without a steady supply of oxygen, the brain cannot function normally. If the oxygen flow is broken, paralysis, brain damage, loss of sensory perceptions, or even death may occur. (source)
Per Dr. Gordon, in this lecture, blood clots are described definitively in Dr. Fuster's Book, and there are three different "pathways" through which the process leads to a fatal clot. Click here for a lecture by Dr. Fuster, including his comments on inflammation. Click here for a news item about a new type of drug for preventing clots.
The "pathways" through which platelets are triggered into clotting are described HERE. On that page is a more detailed explanation of the coagulation cascade -- the series of events which proceeds, in order, leading to a blood clot. Another drawing and explanation of the coagulation cascade, on that same page, is HERE.
That same page includes this:
Further supporting a role for inflammation in plaque rupture is the determination that the plasma C-reactive protein level is a long-term predictor of MI risk and that aspirin is associated with reduced C-reactive protein levels and reduced occurrences of infarcts, hypothetically because of its anti-inflammatory mechanism.23, 30
You can see, now, that FYI could well be a complete replacement for so-called "aspirin-therapy" and not only reduce the "C-Reactive Protein" levels in the blood, but also be one of the substances to block the formation of clots.
One pathway is "handled" by aspirin, but only one. Thus, the aspirin does NOT handle all of the clotting problem. And, it is well acknowledged that aspirin causes some 3000 deaths per year, and probably causes internal bleeding on a regular basis -- but not detected.
EDTA very safely handles one of the pathways that leads to clotting, and nattokinase handles another.
Nattokinase is a potent fibrinolytic enzyme extracted and highly purified from a traditional Japanese food called Natto. Natto is a fermented cheese-like food that has been used in Japan for over 1000 years for its popular taste and as a folk remedy for heart and vascular diseases. Natto is produced by a fermentation process by adding Bacillus natto, a benefical bacteria, to boiled soybeans. The resulting nattokinase enzyme, is produced when Bacillus natto acts on the soybeans. While other soy foods contain enzymes, it is only the natto preparation that contains the specific nattokinase enzyme. (source Lecture #14)
FYI is the natural anti-inflammatory that handles the third pathway leading to clots. Click here to purchase FYI from the Vibrant Life shopping cart.
As Dr. Gordon says in this lecture, it does no good to stop just ONE of the pathways by which clots form:
Because of inherent redundancies in mechanisms leading to clot formation, interfering with any single aspect of platelet function fails to provide complete protection against the development of intravascular thrombosis, especially when the stimulus for thrombosis is strong, such as occurs with the disruption of an atherosclerotic plaque.31 (source)
The drug alternatives each have harmful side effects: Heparin, Aspirin, Vioxx, Celebrex. The American Heart Association boasts when they get a new drug, better than aspirin, but they applaud ONLY the new drugs, not the new non-drugs.
Dr. Gordon, in another lecture in detail, and in THIS lecture in summary, recommends "nattokinase" as an important prevention of thrombosis.
Nattokinase is a potent fibrinolytic enzyme extracted and highly purified from a traditional Japanese food called Natto. Natto is a fermented cheese-like food that has been used in Japan for over 1000 years for its popular taste and as a folk remedy for heart and vascular diseases. Natto is produced by a fermentation process by adding Bacillus natto, a benefical bacteria, to boiled soybeans. The resulting nattokinase enzyme, is produced when Bacillus natto acts on the soybeans. While other soy foods contain enzymes, it is only the natto preparation that contains the specific nattokinase enzyme. (source)
Here is another excerpt from the page on clotting. When you read the Table referenced in this link you will find many drugs, but no non-drug approaches.
Accordingly, successful prevention of thrombosis will likely require a multidimensional pharmacologic approach (Table I). (source)
When you contemplate the millions of people who are taking aspirin, or even Coumadin, all supported by so-called "health insurance" and considered the "standard of care" by the great majority of doctors -- consider all that? You can see the magnitude of the problem of returning sanity into this field.
You may not consider it possible to change the system, towards sanity, but you don't have to be caught up in the insanity. You should read these pages, get and listen to Dr. Gordon's lectures, find someone you can trust, if you don't have time to do all this, and avoid the mainstream of doomed medical treatments.
5. Clinic Size In this lecture Garry mentions that his IV clinic had 17,000 square feet, 50 employees, $2,000,000 worth of equipment, and that he was lucky with all of this to take home $1,000 per month.
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