Dr. Garry F. Gordon, Biochemist and Father Of Chelation Therapy
I, Karl Loren, have been studying chelation, including oral
chelation, for about 20 years.
At one point, many years ago, I was regularly in communication with a large number of intravenous chelation doctors. Some were such close friends that I would visit often and stay in their homes for a visit. I met the families and ate with them all. I got to know the children, and walked on the hospital rounds as some of them would do patient visits.
One is a good example. He had a thriving practice of
alternative medicine, including a large clinic delivering intravenous
chelation therapy. Even though many IV doctors were refused admittance
to treat patients in their local hospitals, he was on the staff of all three
of his local hospitals. I went with him a few times, putting on a white
coat so as to not be too odd. I quietly watched and listened as he made
these patient calls.
He did NOT do IV chelation in the hospitals, but he spoke openly about it to his patients -- about how when they were well enough to get out of the hospital they could THEN come to his clinic and get IV chelation therapy.
At that time all these IV doctors knew that I had a vitamin company, Vibrant Life, that sold "oral chelation." That didn't trouble them and I had many IV doctors as good friends.
This doctor, Dr. E., was a very bright and upcoming doctor.
He was on the "ladder" to become the President of ACAM -- the American College
of Advancement in Medicine. Unfortunately he died suddenly -- one of the
failures of IV chelation, and undoubtedly a good (if hidden) example of having
a "wrong
relationship" problem.
Because of him, and other friendly IV doctors, all over the country, I was invited to any and all of the regular ACAM meetings. I would attend without cost to me, as a guest of one or another doctor. When it was necessary I wore a "press pass" as my "ticket."
Usually I would attend several of the lectures, wander around among the commercial exhibits and just "get acquainted" with the doctors.
It was at one of
these meetings I met Dr. Garry F. Gordon (and also Dr.
Robert Atkins).
It was a casual meeting, but there was something about Garry that stood out, so
that at further meetings I would always have some friendly exchange with
him.
This was probably BEFORE he started promoting the concept of oral chelation. I learned that he had the second largest IV chelation clinic in the world, with Dr. Robert Atkins having the largest.
I wasn't close enough to him to know what was happening, but at some point his clinic, located in California, was closed down by the government. It was very large -- more than 17,000 square feet and 50 employees. Garry comments in a lecture that many months he would have only $1,000 left over income at the end of the month. (source) Many IV chelation clinics had these types of problems -- both low profitability and government attacks.
My friend, Dr. E., was politically savvy. He was a DO, and had other credentials. He got himself on the Board of Certification for a couple of his specialties, and stayed well-enough connected with the "powers" that his IV practice was never threatened.
I think of Dr. Gordon as not being anywhere near as willing to play tootsie with the medical powers, and California, of course, was a bad state to be a revolutionary in. There are some doctors who "hunker down" and stay out of sight, being politically correct. Dr. Gordon is not one of those!
Click here for his astounding professional background.
So, when his California clinic was closed, and I don't know all the story, he eventually moved to Arizona. Garry started traveling, attending conferences, being appointed to this or that board of advisors for this or that.
Obviously there are gaps in this story because I was not in regular or close touch with Garry.
During
this time I had a very large disagreement with, and at the same time a very strong
admiration of, Dr. Elmer Cranton.
My mother had just died in 1981, and her doctor told me, "No one knows what causes heart disease."
I accepted that, for the moment, but I vowed to spend some
time finding out more.
It was Dr. Cranton's book, Bypassing Bypass, which got me started in this whole business. The second edition revolutionized my thinking and the third edition is now current.
The turning point for me was getting his first book and reading it. Dr. Cranton had a solid explanation for heart disease, but more than that he introduced me to a new term, "intravenous chelation therapy."
My mother would not have died if she knew about his Book!
After reading his first book, I wrote my own, Life Glow One, The Solution For Heart Disease. Then when he published his second edition, he changed drastically his explanation of chelation therapy -- now making reference to the toxic metals and free radicals.
I immediately came out with the second edition of my own book, now on the web HERE.
Around
the same time I was very active in the National Health Federation. (At
one time the Board even considered me to become the new Executive Director.) I
attended many of their meetings, when Dr. Kurt Donsbach was the Chairman Of
The Board of
the NHF.
He was basically a chiropractor and had founded a school for certifying "nutritionists." However he found it, I don't know, but he started promoting an "oral chelation" formula. I would listen in great admiration because he was describing exactly what my mother should have had. He was usually the most prominent speaker at the large meetings of the NHF.
His own unique oral chelating formula (known variously as VASCUSAN, ORACHEL, CARDIO-EZ, ORA-FLO) was the first such product on the market and remains without competition. Dr. Donsbach was Chairman of the Board of the National Health Federation for 15 years and brought this budding organization to national recognition. (source)
The NHF fell into disrepute when Dr. Donsbach got into a slugging match with Maureen Salaman. Maureen has run this fine organization into the ground. It is barely a shadow of what it had been. She is still the current chairman of a dying creature.
At one point, rather quickly, Dr. Donsbach's company became by far the largest in the US selling an oral chelation formula. (Later it was closed down by the FDA, when my company was not! There is an interesting story there.)
I was at a point in my life where I was ready to launch a new career. I had sold a business and had enough money coming in every month to support a few years of looking about and developing a new business.
So, Dr. Cranton was my early introduction to chelation therapy, and Dr. Donsbach was the man who showed that the chelation therapy could be a part of a non-medical doctor's interests.
I joined a multi-level-marketing company, Royal Nutrition, still in business now, whose main product was then an oral chelation formula. They quit selling oral chelation at some point -- it was politically a hot potato. Click HERE for more on the history of why I was NOT closed down, and every other company selling oral chelation was stopped including Dr. Donsbach. MORE HISTORY here.
In the beginning I knew practically nothing about this subject, but spent hundreds, eventually many thousands of hours, studying heart disease and chelation therapy. My personal background is with an accounting major in college and an MBA from the Harvard Business School. This background, of course, is a great advantage in studying a health subject since you don't have to "unlearn" all the false garbage fed to the "innocents" in medical schools.
Dr. Cranton, and some others, were very forceful in claiming that oral EDTA was worthless, and that, therefore, "oral chelation" was not any good. I disagreed with him, of course, on the basis that he didn't seem to know that Cysteine was an excellent chelating substance and was 100% absorbed into the body, unlike EDTA. Then I started seeing so-called "oral chelation" formulas appear on the market -- they had oral EDTA as either the only or at least one ingredient.
I fumed at these EDTA formulas! Here was my idol, Dr. Cranton, who got me started into my business, and he was saying that oral EDTA was worthless. I agreed with him, even though I had no scientific basis for doing so. I knew he was wrong on oral chelation (using Cysteine) but right on oral EDTA.
So, in many places on my many web pages I had "oral EDTA fraud" as a common phrase.
I continued to be friendly with IV doctors. They liked me, but they never tried to investigate MY chelation formula -- they did not feel threatened in any way. Anyway, they didn't know about Cysteine and didn't care.
During this time I started learning about treatment of cancer in Mexico. I became a very close friend of Jimmy Keller. I've written about him HERE.
But, during this time Dr. Garry F. Gordon was searching around for what to do when his IV clinic was closed and at some point he started reading the research about EDTA that few if any other doctors had read -- particularly Dr. Cranton.
Incidentally,
Dr. Cranton was far ahead of every other IV doctor in recognizing that
it was the toxic metal, and the free radical, that were handled by chelation.
Almost all other IV doctors were foolishly claiming that the IV EDTA would
remove plaque, remove calcium This has never been true. I
publicized this false theoretical foundation years ago. It is coming back
to haunt the IV doctors because the
NIH is
conducting a study of the efficacy of IV chelation. But, they are
taking the foolish IV doctors at their word, that EDTA removes calcium.
It does NOT remove calcium, so the NIH study will "prove" that IV chelation
does not "work." (Dr. Gordon -- and Dr. Cranton -- fully understands this foolish position the
IV doctors have gotten themselves into.) I believe this NIH study was
pushed by IV doctors who, secretly, want IV chelation to be called a failure
-- they have other fish to fry.
Dr. Gordon found studies done on the use of oral EDTA back before IV chelation even existed.
That was rather astounding. Here was oral EDTA, listed
in the famous PDR, as THE method of removing lead from the body. That
reference stayed in the PDR for many years and then mysteriously disappeared.
Dr. Gordon started doing even more research and came to the conclusion that oral EDTA was very effective for the same uses that IV chelation was used for.
So, our paths were now destined to cross.
Garry developed his own oral chelation formula, Beyond
Chelation. It contained ONLY EDTA as a chelating substance. He was
going his merry way, while I was going my merry way with my own oral chelation
formula that contained NO EDTA.
He was and is certainly more famous among many medical people than I am, but I was certainly better known to the public looking around on the web.
I was still saying that "oral EDTA is a fraud," but had no awareness of Dr. Gordon's formula being sold.
One day, as you might expect, one of my customers discovered Garry's web site, and Garry's claims about oral EDTA and wrote to me about this difference of opinion.
There was then a very fast and furious week.
I went to Dr. Gordon's
web
site and started reading his materials.
I wanted to believe that I had been right about "oral EDTA being a fraud," but his data was very convincing. I realized that if I were to change my position on oral EDTA it would be a giant change for me!
So, I took the bull by the horns, called him, and reached him.
Both of us remembered the last time we had met -- at an ACAM meeting in Las Vegas, some years earlier.
He also had some vague realization that I had a rather large presence on the web, and was calling his product a fraud.
We never had a hostile exchange. We talked a bit, and he offered to have me as a guest in his home for a few days -- so we could talk over this concept of chelation therapy.
I went to Arizona and was his guest for a couple nights. I stayed in his home and had pleasantly cooked meals there.
By this time I had already copied some of his pages to MY web site. Because of my very great skill with web design, I was getting far more visitors to my web sites than he was to his. In fact, we then joked that when someone entered "Garry Gordon" in one of the major search engines, there would be several top ranked pages among MY web sites, with his own web sites coming in below mine.
I am regularly getting more than 5,000 visitors per day on my 19 web sites. This is an unheard of statistic for a company aiming at the consumer public with a health product.
In other words, I was getting more visitors interested in Garry Gordon on MY webs than he was on HIS own sites.
I went over with him some of the terrible design features of his webs at the time. His current webs are far better than they were.
I quickly realized that I had been wrong (as has been Dr. Cranton) about oral EDTA. I realized that I would have to apologize and retract all my many references to "fraudulent oral EDTA." This whole story, including my announcements are HERE as well as many other pages. I wrote a special edition of my electronic newsletter about Dr. Garry Gordon, HERE.
We became very friendly. He may not like to recall it this way, but at one point we even talked of merging our businesses -- and formulas.
He was extremely generous about sharing information about his formula, and EDTA. I had no secrets from him, either, including my skill of greatest interest to him -- web design and communicating with the public.
At any point we parted on very friendly terms. I decided I had to add oral EDTA into my formula, and he decided he had to improve on how his web sites were designed.
We have not been in close touch, much, since then, but there was a short time when we traveled together to consider a new product and selling it on a joint basis. Ultimately he went off on his own way.
So, over these years I have been very aware of Dr. Garry F.
Gordon, and have made liberal and free use of the technical data he has
published on his web sites. The image on the left is a photo I took of
him at a meeting we both attended for a couple days.
There was even a time (I really don't know why) when he was routinely referring prospective oral chelation customers to MY web sites.
We have arrived at a pleasant point where we can each say that we are friendly competitors, and that each of us is convinced that "our" oral chelation formula is the best.
However, I am still very willing to learn from Garry. I've known for some time that he had oils in his formula and I did not. I could not put them in my formula unless I followed his procedure and put them in soft-gel capsules, in which case, I, like him, would have to have an entirely different package.
I don't expect to change the packaging of my formulas, but I currently researching the best combination and dosages for an oil packet to sell along with my formulas. As much fault as I find with the American Heart Association, I see that they are now recommending oils, and I will certainly start with a thorough understanding of their position -- click here.
As reviewed by Stone,1 three prospective epidemiological studies within populations reported that men who ate at least some fish weekly had a lower coronary heart disease (CHD) mortality rate than that of men who ate none. More recent evidence that fish consumption favorably affects CHD mortality, especially nonsudden death from myocardial infarction (MI), has been reported in a 30-year follow-up of the Chicago Western Electric Study. (source)
He has, however, more scientific background than I do. But this means I can use his claims for prevention of cancer and other major benefits for oral chelation. Click here for my web section indicating that my formulas prevent cancer. Dr. Gordon says virtually the same and thus I now have a brilliant supporter for my own products.
That is the background that leads up to the point where I heard that Garry was going to have a conference on metal toxicity. I considered attending, but figured that I could get as much as I might use from the tapes of the conference, rather than attend.
My set of these taped lectures arrived just a few days before I started this special web site, called the "GarryGordon" web site, within www.chelationtherapyonline.com
I realized that Garry has stuff that I don't. He may not acknowledge that I have "stuff" that he doesn't, but I decided that his contribution to the concept of chelation therapy was much too important and vital for me to ignore.
There is no possible way I could become the brilliant biochemist that Garry is.
But, there are some aspects about me that I think he will never aspire to, or achieve.
So, I have created this web section to acknowledge the great contributions made by Dr. Garry F. Gordon, not only to the narrow field of "chelation therapy," but to all of "health." I have no difficulty acknowledging his very superior understanding of many aspects of chelation and of health matters.
Part of his wealth of background and research material about chelation is HERE.
His chelation formula, and mine, are featured on this page. Linked pages have very detailed comparisons between his and my formulas.
Garry's material tends to be oriented toward the technically inclined -- full of fancy words. I have a section of this web site, being added to constantly, where I have my own research and explanatory material to help make Garry's material more usable.
Now, however, it is time to start pointing out some of the differences.
I expect we will remain friendly competitors. I don't know how much time he may have to read MY web site, but he probably will. I certainly have spent lots of time on his web.
I applaud him for continuing to claim that
his Beyond Chelation formula is better than mine, and I have no trouble
claiming, with equal intensity, that mine is better than his.
So, I've acknowledged his superiority in an extremely important field of biochemistry. My comments HERE go further in this praise.
I doubt if Garry will even disagree with me
on the points below, but I stress them because they are the things which make
Karl Loren so unique on the web.
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Garry Gordon has an obvious goal to rehabilitate all of medicine from the foolish quagmire into which it has sunk. I have some interest in that, but think that it is too late for these doctors to learn the new truths. I spend more of my energies, than he does, in exposing the fraud and corruption in our current medical system. I have a whole theory on this, here.
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Garry Gordon has an interest in developing
oral chelation (and many other modalities) to be administered by a "doctor,"
and wants to emphasize the diagnosis and monitoring of a "patient" who may
be taking oral chelation. Not only can I NOT do that, I don't think
that oral chelation needs to be administered in this way. There may
well be some number of people where a careful diagnosis, or careful
monitoring will insure success. I will miss on those. But, there
is, I think, the very broad majority of the public that can take oral
chelation with no special diagnosis and continue to use it without
monitoring. Garry's approach will be far more expensive, but closer to
100% successful. I guess I am the guy who is bringing oral chelation
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Garry Gordon will continue to be much
closer to a "research biochemist." I will not be that person.
But, Garry's language is made for the doctor, or the technically proficient.
My thousands of pages are written for the man in the street. I work
hard to understand Garry's stuff, but I do that work so that I can use my
special skills at writing in plain English. -
I wrote, many years ago, my serious essay, The Four Roads To Ruin, in which I laid out my philosophical position on health. Click here for the original form of that concept. This essay clearly lays out that the highest importance, for me, is in "truth." People die of ignorance and false data much more than from bacteria. The next road to ruin lies in the fact, very true for me, that mental and spiritual phenomenon are senior to anything physical. The third and fourth roads to ruin are where I believe Garry and I would agree 100% -=- the third road to ruin is in toxins in our bodies, and the fourth road is in deficiencies, largely caused by lack of nutrients in our food. I don't expect Garry to disagree with the first two roads to ruin, but I don't think he pays anyway near as much attention as I do to them.
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I
am very critical of virtually all organized religions for their complete
failure, over the past 100 years, to establish the scientific validity of
spirituality technology in healing both the human spirit (which surely
causes war and destruction) and the human body.
Click here for
a well established study of mental or spiritual technology which has been
grossly ignored by religions -- religions which have taken on the
false "god" or materialism and forsaken God.
Click here
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Specifically, I have publicized a "wrong
relationship" concept (not original with me) that is very much senior to
toxins or deficiencies. An agreement, once made, then broken, causes
harm of health in the bodies of those concerned. I have not only
ONE page
that describes this concept very well, but I have an
entire web site, with many
hundreds of pages, that describes the mental and spiritual causes for
disease -- these being senior to any pill, vitamin or drug in remedying
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There seems to be another big difference between us. I am convinced that it is absolutely
necessary to
understand, thoroughly,
what a
"free radical" is. I have written extensively about this small
particle. I believe that free radicals are the basic physical (not
mental) cause of all degenerative diseases, including heart disease, cancer,
arthritis, and many more. Many who write on health issues will talk
about germs, or parasites, or this or that. In any one case any of these may
be an important factor. But, to me any of these would be nothing more
than intermediary factors -- with a free radical lurking, finally, at the
most basic level. Garry Gordon, for instance, is one of the world's
champions on the dangers of toxic or heavy metals in the body. I
suppose he doesn't disagree, but he doesn't then stress the truth that toxic
and heavy metals are ONLY dangerous because they increase the quantity and
activity of free radicals. I suggest that heavy metals, by themselves,
are NOT most basic in heart disease or any illness, but they are the "thing"
that does not belong in the body, should be "detoxed" out of the body.
Why? Because of their well proven role as catalysts which increase the
number and activity of free radicals. -
The removal of metals from the body can only be done by a non-drug approach. Garry and I would certainly agree on that. He names other causes of heart disease, such as infection and blood that is too thick. I would not disagree with the too-thick blood concept, but suggest that BENEATH this concept there is a free radical causation that he is not sufficiently acknowledging.
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You might conclude that no matter which of is "right" on these matters, both of our oral chelation formulas "work." That is probably true. No matter how brilliant Dr. Gordon may be, as a biochemist, and doctor, I am content in the belief that I have a superior grasp of the total picture, including mental and spiritual, and in reference to the role of free radicals.
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Now, when it comes down to some almost trivial matters, he has a formula which cannot be made in a single type of "capsule" or "tablet." I agree with him that the oils he includes are very important in health. But, these oils cannot be put into a pressed, dry tablet. They cannot be put into a "pull apart" gelatin capsule. They can only be put into what is called a "soft gel cap." These must be manufactured by very large machines and in very large quantities to achieve a practical cost. This means that he must put his formula into a "packet" containing 6 tablets and 3 different soft-gel caps. I have not included these important oils because if I did I could not put them in my capsule with the other ingredients. I will soon be altering my recommendations to include the taking of oils, but I don't expect to change the convenience of being able to sell a "bottle" that has 300 capsules where you can take whatever number per day as you wish.
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I have a separate analysis of the actual differences between us when it comes to the ingredients in our respective formulas. Clearly there are some huge differences here. I respect Dr. Gordon's knowledge and what components he chose for his formula. But, I am no slouch on this either. So, I have 5,000 mg of daily Vitamin C in my Super Life Glow formula and Dr. Gordon's Beyond Chelation, two packets per day, give you only 400 mg. That is an enormous difference in ingredients, but even more in concept. Generally, my formulas have extremely high dosages of a great many ingredients where Garry's formula has very, very much less. Surely he will argue that the larger doses are unnecessary? I would argue that they are vital!
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Dr.
Gordon apparently still subscribes to the discredited notion that high
cholesterol is a risk for heart disease. He
announced the addition of "red yeast"
for the purpose of lowering cholesterol readings.
My study
on cholesterol makes it clear that high cholesterol is NOT a risk factor
for heart disease. The image here is Dr. Uffe Ravnskov, one of the
scientists who has proven that the "dangers" of high cholesterol is a false
danger. My hero, and Dr. Gordon's antagonist, Dr. Elmer Cranton,
certainly
agrees
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Dr. Gordon has also named "homocysteine" as a risk for heart disease. He is not correct on this either. High levels of homocysteine are a SYMPTOM, not a cause, for heart disease. This tendency for virtually all doctors to confuse symptoms with causes must come from their very crooked medical education -- apparently this is a crooked learning that is not eliminated no matter how much advanced biochemistry they study.
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Dr. Gordon also believes that heart disease is, at least in part, caused by infection. There is a group of IV chelation doctors who are pushing the nanobacteria concept. Dr. Gordon, and they, have fingered a real phenomenon, but they still do not recognize the much more fundamental role of free radicals. It is free radicals that allow infection to start. When you identify something late on the chain, you are missing the opportunity to solve the problem without a drug. The nanobacteria people use a anti-biotic to solve the infection, but it could be solved more basically by recognizing the role of free radicals, toxic metals and the very chelation they started with. Dr. Gordon HAS identified some reasons why chelation sometimes doesn't work. These are valuable additions to the chelation story.
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I am pleased and proud that I do not try to differ with Dr. Gordon on cost. I have never believed much in "price competition." There are dozens of very cheap, useless, so-called "oral chelation" formulas being sold. I would never try to be "better" by being "cheaper." So, my Super Life Glow formula costs quite a bit more than Beyond Chelation. However, my Life Glow Plus formula costs slightly less than Beyond Chelation. Since I don't have the expensive oils in my formula, and he does, that makes it hard to price compare. Since I have many other ingredients, particularly the expensive amino acids, which he has none of? Well, we just can't compare much on the basis of price, but force onto the consumer the necessity of understanding the differences we have about what ingredients SHOULD be in an oral chelation formula. I am content to continue to have these differences in price lay where they are, and to have our differences in ingredients remain as THEY are.
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For instance, Dr. Gordon recognizes the vital importance of Co-Enzyme Q10 in a heart health formula. He does NOT include it, however, in his formula, while I do have 50 mg per day in my Super Life Glow. Co-Q10 is one of the most important ingredients to add and many who formulate a vitamin formula leave it out because it adds so much to the cost -- they will then recommend, as Dr. Gordon does, that you buy it separately.
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As much a champion of chelation as Dr. Gordon is, his formula includes only 800 mg of EDTA in the recommended two packets per day. My formulas use three different chelating substances (EDTA, Cysteine and N Acetyl Cysteine) and in larger amounts than his Beyond Chelation. My Life Glow Plus provides 1,100 mg of chelating substances per day, while my Super Life Glow provides 1,800 mg of chelating substances. Both of these formulas can be augmented by adding any number of capsules of Life Glow Basic, thus making it very easy to increase the amount of chelating substance without necessarily increasing the other, "regular" vitamin ingredients.
I admire and respect Dr. Garry F. Gordon, even while I compete with him.
I think his Beyond Chelation formula is a good one, even while I think mine are better.
I do not aspire to understand biochemistry better than Dr. Gordon, but I do expect to explain it better than he does to the man-in-the-street.
I do NOT have the disadvantage of having a medical education. It is virtually impossible for a medically-educated person to "un-learn" all the false data he has had to absorb in all those years of drug-oriented schooling.
I wish him we
ll
with his web presence, and his conferences, but I'll be content with a bigger
and more popular set of web sites (currently at 19 webs, 20,000 pages) and
my unrivaled pledge to answer every personal eMail message personally.
I now commend you to look through the thousands of pages in this web, and linked to it, to provide the very best of biochemical substance to this miracle of modern medicine -- oral chelation therapy.
Karl Loren
Articles by and about Dr. Gordon and EDTA Chelation Therapy
Lectures by Dr. Gordon and Others
Ingredient and Price Comparisons between Dr. Gordon's and Karl Loren's Formulas
Karl Loren -- Supporting Research Findings
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