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Karl: Dr. Berducci wrote to me. His messages and my responses are exactly as published below. Here is a good example of a covertly hostile professor at a University in Japan. These are the people who are plotting your continued reliance on chemicals to adjust your life. They have no clue as to what "life" is -- and here is a perfect example of what Dr. Wundt has wrought with his "behavioral psychology."
You, the reader, should begin to perceive the depths of hostility in people such as Dr. Berducci. This hostility gets expressed at people like me, but it is just as keen against society generally, since these are the people who help create the chemical society we live within.
Karl Loren
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Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 3:54 AM
To: extract2@oralchelation.com
Subject: Message to Karl Loren about The Wednesday Letter April 2002
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Source: Comment On The Wednesday Letter -- April 2002
Contact_FirstName: Domenic
Contact_LastName: Berducci
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Dear Karl,
Your site was comprehensively researched, and I am convinced by the
data on your site as well as from other related sites.
I would however like to make one comment. Your writing style is
angry and informal. Do you think that anger and informality
decreases your credibility among any of your readers?
Best, Domenic Berducci Toyama, Japan
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From:
Karl Loren
To:
berducci@pu-toyama.ac.jp
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 6:30 AM
Subject: RE: Message to Karl Loren about The Wednesday Letter
April 2002
Dear Domenic,
Absolutely not.
In fact, I deliberate choose both styles -- angry and casual.
Most of my readers are in an emotional state of fear. They have started to worry about heart disease or cancer, or whatever.
I can write in an emotional band of enthusiasm, but that would not be real to my public.
Anger is real.
I am careful never to be angry toward the customer -- but to the common enemy the drug companies, "health" insurance and bad doctors.
So, I appeal very strongly to most people who would buy my stuff.
If it doesn't hit with you? Then I my guess is that you are "too high" on the scale of emotional states.
I could give you more on this, but it is all covered in 30 years of training I have done on "communication" generally.
The below is an example.
There is no polite term for the state of medical information. I expose the lies, and do not do it in a gentle way. The evil-doers deserve every ounce of anger I can generate.
Regards,
Karl Loren
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Thank you for your frank and detailed response.
Now I wonder if your style does not decrease your credibility among your readers, how about among the readers who are representatives of drug companies?
Also, your writing does 'hit with me', it demonstrates passion, but I can only say that after reading many pages of your site. Anger is easily expressed, but it usually, not in your case, is not backed up with facts/research.
BTW, what is your background? I wasnt able to find much or any info on the site.
Dear Domenic,
What would be the receptivity of my writing style among drug company reps? They would be probably in the fear band for some different reason, but in any event they are the knowing enemy of mankind, and I do not attempt to help them. They need to be exposed for choosing a career that harms society.
One day this level of personal responsibility will become more common.
The
fact that YOU do not see the facts and research (which is there
very plentifully) is a strong indicator that you are one of these
drug reps, or some such. My investigation suggests that you are
an associate professor at Toyama University. You are probably in
the biotechnology department -- one of the worst possible sources
of truth, if not only because people in such departments have not
the slightest clue as to what the meaning and definition of "life"
is -- the very word in "bio".
Since you appear to be some sort of professor related to psychology, you should face that fact that you are completely devoid of any definition of "psych" (soul) or "mind."
In fact I find you, now, as an associate professor at your school.
| Associate Professors | ||||
| BERDUCCI, Domenic, Ph.D. | 330 | Social interaction and “cognition” | ||
| FUKUHARA, Tadashi, D.Sc. | 342 | Solid state physics | ||
| HARAGUCHI, Shizuko, M.A. | 338 | Japanese art history | ||
| HIRANO, Yoshitaka, M.A. | 337 | Macroeconomics | ||
| IDO, Keisuke, Ph.D. | 333 | Cognitive science | ||
| ISHIMORI, Yuji, D.Eng. | 327 | Applied mathematics ; Mathematical physics | ||
| KAWABATA, Shigeki, D.Sc. | 331 | Organic Chemistry ; Photochemistry | ||
| NAKAGAWA, Yoshihide, M.A. | 332 | Modern German literature | ||
| NAKAJIMA, Takashi, Ph.D. | 340 | Linguistics | ||
| OKAMATO, Hiroshi, Ph.D. | 336 | Exercise and environmental | ||
Such people usually believe man arose from a sea of chemicals, and do not believe in God. I have a major article about them, but you would not read it.
Such people believe so strongly in the lies they have been taught that they are blind to the truth.
This allegation by you on lack of my facts and research, today, is in stark contrast to your original message where you said my data was fully researched.
Your site was comprehensively researched, and I am convinced by the data on your site as well as from other related sites.
I assume you are hostile, from this, and write back to you despite this feeling. There is a particular form of hostility which you display -- "covert" hostility -- appearing to be friendly when you are, in fact, one of the enemy.
Part
of the process of exposure of people like you
is to reveal, even if only to you, personally, your own false
nature. Of course I will now publish also, including your
university's involvement.
Your President's picture is along side.
You imply that my credentials may be lacking, and hidden?
My background is very fully published on my web.
Your indication that you don't find it is, mostly, a sign that you didn't look, and that you had no care to look.
Another sign that you approach these pages with hostility.
If you enter "Karl Loren background" in the google search feature at www.oralchelation.com, you will get more than 100 links to pages with information about me, personally.
Here are the first ten of those:
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I will now publish your comments, and mine, but invite you to establish with me what your career actually might be, and your own credentials for criticizing my pages??
I see you are an academic at:
Since you seem to be specifically critical of my articles about cholesterol and plaque? I invite you to write your comments and I will publish them with links to those articles.
I suggest that your failure to submit anything on these issues would be just further proof of your hostile nature and reluctance to admit the truth.
Since you may well be a psychologist (?), I then invite you to respond in your field of "expertise" and refute the material I've published HERE:
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Historical Chart
Toyama Prefectural University celebrated its 10th anniversary on
July 1st, 2000, having been established in 1990.
It is located
approximately in the center of Toyama Prefecure, Kosugi-machi, We
offer the best environment to study, Modern University Building,
Sufficient Facilities, Essential Research Equipment, etc.
College of
Technology originated from the Otani College of Technology,
established in 1962, newly started in 1990.
April 1990
Founded as Toyama Prefectural University
October 1992
Biotechnology Research Center
April 1994
Graduate School of Engineering (Master’s Program)
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Graduate School of Engineering (Master’s Program of
Biotechnology)
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Biotechnology)
College of Technology (Advanced Program for Bioresources
Science, and Regional
and Environmental Technology)
I wonder if these computer users can access my web?
When they do? What will happen?
Karl Loren
We will see whether the professor responds any further?? If he does? I'll publish.
Karl Loren
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